A Conversation About God | Dr. John Lennox | EP 394
Dr. Jordan B Peterson sits down with mathematician, author, and theologian Dr. John Lennox. They discuss the axioms and dangerous aims of transhumanism, the interplay between ethical faith, reason, and the empirical world that makes up the scientific endeavor, and the line between luciferian intellectual presumption and wise courageous exploration.
Dr. John Carson Lennox is a Northern Irish mathematician, bioethicist, and Christian apologist. He has written several books, and was a professor at Oxford and Green Templeton College (Now retired) where he specialized in group theory. Lennox appeared in numerous debates with questions ranging from “Is God Good” to “Is There a God,” and faced off with academic titans such as Richard Dawkins, Michael Shermer, and Christopher Hitchens, among others. Lennox speaks four languages – English, German, French, and Russian, has written 70 peer-reviewed articles on mathematics, co-authored two Oxford Mathematical Monographs, and was noted for his role in translating Russian mathematics while working as a professor.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:33) Intro
(1:19) The “unbridgeable gap” between science and Christianity
(5:46) Is the human soul a microcosm of the cosmos?
(10:01) Evidence of a Creator, a “word-based universe”
(15:01) Truth exists
(18:03) Statistical analysis, the ethical dimension of science
(23:41) Prioritization of facts is done through ethics
(26:18) Thought and time: from where does the revelation spring?
(33:23) Transhumanism: an extension of demented protestantism
(37:18) The death of God, the death of man
(43:28) The weight of being, the problem of physical death
(46:37) You cannot breed for evolutionary fitness
(50:24) Third Wave Biology, Questioning Darwin
(52:59) The wisdom not to cross the line
(59:27) Knowing good and evil vs. defining it as subjective
(1:02:04) The three sources of moral knowledge
(1:04:03) The basis for human dignity
(1:09:48) Sacrifice and maturity
(1:15:17) The female crucifixion
(1:18:18) Death is not the end
(1:19:51) Voluntary exposure to build strength
(1:24:34) Lazarus, leaving the darkness
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Great interview. I need to go away and find out more about John. A wonderful Christian man. Thanks Jordan
there isn't much evidence that the study of science has been beneficial and useful …. it has given us atomic bombs and 8 billion people
Incredible conversation that is telling with regard to the current evils in the world.
If we are afraid of death then our are fears is justifiable because who want a useless worthless life, and if because of that fear we built religion then it doesn't matter how stupid religion is, the problem is still horrific and by laughing and mocking on the believer you are no better.
Humanity will never God even if we tried or wanted to because humanity are temporal & finite being not eternal.
Attributes of God are omnipotent, omniscient & omnipresent:
Man will never be omnipotent(unlimited strength).
Proof: we finite being with finite limitations.
Man will never be omniscient(knowing all-knowledge)
proof: we are confine to the present time.
Man will never be omnipresent(being everywhere)
Proof: we can't be everywhere at one time.
I'm a nurse and I'm doing a course in anatomy and physiology and a born again Christian – if you study anatomy and physiology at a cellular level I cannot understand how anybody cannot believe in God. Everything as a microcosm of the macrocosm is revealed when you look at Saturn. To me it looks like a cell, a human cell, with a mitochondria a nucleus etc. Can anybody else see that?
@JordanBPeterson I'd love to see you get David Wood on your channel, especially to explore the psychology of his time in prison and his Christian conversion in more depth.
This was an amazing discussion. Thanks gentleman. For me reason can perhaps bring you closer to God,however it is only belief that can make you cross the final threshold.
If police go to a crime scene they look for dna & thereby find the crimal
We all have simliar dna to animals trees fruit etc etc
That is because we have one creator
Because we all contain
HIS DNA!!
Brilliant. Thank you
Proverbs 1:7
“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”
King James Version (KJV)
this two are so smart I am trying to keep up but every time they say axions and suppositions, my brain enters a state of what that means again lol. Like love it, this two brains are amazing, JP really just need to embrace Jesus once he does his mind would be open to grander things of GOD. Like John said, God is a revealer and he keeps revealing HIMSELF, be it to your brain or in visions and dreams. Nothing rational will equal the reality of GOD IS.
depending on the induvidauls choice the reverlation comes from the holy spirit , or evil ,both cases are beyond the induvidaul ,but you need discernment, induvidauls assume that life has we know it now is the most important stage ,the differance between love and desire,what pleases the induvidaul good or evil,awareness, the truth the life and the way amen
Two really wonderful men
What is the theory of revelation?
Revelation, in religion, the disclosure of divine or sacred reality or purpose to humanity. In the religious view, such disclosure may come through mystical insights, historical events, or spiritual experiences that transform the lives of individuals and groups.
Sober one night tired? may been! but what happend moments later,, i want to call it a divine or just revelation in some way or holy experience i have never ever had something like this happened to me ever before.and i have to say its was a= Socrates in the allegory of the cave feeling. Just basen on- if i told the hole story people wouldnt take me for serious. Heres how it began, It was getting late i lived alone then , scrolling thrue youtube in the beginning of the Russia – Ukraine war. desperate for some sort of reasoning or some sense in things i just couldnt over look some things didnt ad up cuz of some knowledg so i could just plainly belive what i saw! So i got lost in a 'wtf is this ' state . Felt Total hoplessness/anger and disepointmant i man kind 'War' as if the world whasnt Gray enought. This while i clicked thru the thumbnails and it was like algorythm made fun of me and showed same thumbnails/clips but diffrent content ,and its was felt like a joke was made of me, got real irritaded at that point ! one click or between i went as best as i can explain it into and away like i or my soul i still was me but I travelled it was a little morph fast but felt far ! out of this world feeling if it was my body or another host i could now here and see . And I was well received and felt like i was here for a reason and remember i felt gifted and hounerd for this . There was one ho felt more divine/higher or whatever and was feeling like Angelic being in that sens "there where destent for doing good and played there role on this planet but took shape in a couple of well known key persons , felt really like they where acting there rolees like actors .explained alot of the russia ukraine covid mire stuff i cant remember but felt enlightened! And I also was sent back in a vere well way . Back to myself my eyes. And was overhelmed And the thing here is i was really low on hope but this experience gave me so mutch hope!!!! i was a feeling like a kid full of hopefullnes restored. And it felt amazing. The thing is! i didnt write everything here also becus it faded after i told my brother he couldnt ofcourse belive it he told me i went in psykos stage or something. But I remembered after telling him i wasent supose to And some things blured upp kind of . I was thinking about the experience And I doubted and critised it next when trying to sleep and the morning came and it was not so blissfull feeling as right after i came back if course but even if I felt a sleep for a little while and dreamt all this ? Stills feels to profound and even so one thing hasnt left me! im full off hope again!!! Maby this is all out of context but I had to bring it up . Sorry for my slughtered english spelling im swedish and bad at english .
There is no evidence of a god or creator or anything similar…… its just a man made creation to fill a void in understanding
Omg I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
Can't wait for Dr. Peterson to interview Dr. Hugh Ross and Dr. James Tour.
WHO CREATED The CREATOR😂😂😂😂
Be born again ! Like Jésus said to Nicodemus thé great intellectual of his time