Red Hat: why I'm going all in on community-driven Linux distros.

30 thoughts on “Red Hat: why I'm going all in on community-driven Linux distros.”

• Supertro

• Question: What file servers are available for Debian? ☝
  BTW — Thanks for the clip on Debian over Red Hat 👍

• TBH, Fedora (my current OS) and POP_OS! are my 2 most favourite corporate (or, better to say, semi-corporate) distros. I don't get the hate, especially for Fedora. Fedora, I'm pretty confident, is in that league of 5 most known distributions, along with Ubuntu, Arch, Mint OS and Debian. It also is almost always featured in comparison to Ubuntu with questionable decisions and pro-plans. POP OS is great as well. It gives that fresh DEB experience with a fantastic touch of Cosmic DE and gamer-focused set of tweaks. And by God is POP OS itself not corporate. Sure, it is an OS created by a company, but the main financial focus of that company is the hardware side. They are like Apple, if Apple made MacOS FOSS and legal to run on any PC. They make POP OS to promote their hardware, not to sell a Pro-plan.

• Is it rude to say in an exasperated tone, “fucking red hat”?

• redhat was ok like 15 years ago, now it is over

• As a kid in high school, I remember buying the first version of RHEL from staples in a desperate attempt to get ANYTHING to boot using a Promise TX2 SATA controller and support my US Robotics modem's call waiting feature. RHEL was one of the few Linux offerings that had a driver disk to support it.

  At the time, I had no idea how the driver disk worked so performing kernel updates on a live system was a recipe for total system failure. Fortunately, the 2.6 kernel came with native support for my SATA card starting with Fedora Core 2.

• As someone that has been using CentOS 5 – 6.10 – 7 now Rocky 9 in production, This is genuinely scary still.

• It's been a while since Red Hat made this move. Interested if you still feel the same? I've actually come round to understanding their POV and in fact noticed now that it's not all that uncommon. There does appear to be lots of situations where people take existing FOSS products and just rebrand it. Might even commercialise it and yet never give back to the original place. Red Hat at least still give back to Linux community in a very big way. I feel like Linux is no longer a "geek thing" but has out grown that. It's attracting a wider market and with it comes this expectation and demand that "everything should be free, no matter how much cost/time was invested in building it", this being an attitude mostly from people who never contribute anything back. RH has always made money, and I hope they continue to do so because their impact on Linux development is amazing even if they were to hide their RHEL code away for good. It's like all these people who use Codium instead of VS code, because god forbid you should send anonymous stats to MS to help and improve the product, or building a Linux distro and all you do is change the default shell and desktop environment then rebrand it as a completely new distro….

• MXLinux works good

• "brought you in part by corporate greed" xD awesome haha! Yeah we're all disapointed about redhat and now fedora that wants to datamine its users. eeeee 🙁

• Personally I recommend Gentoo for basically anything as it’s the most convenient distribution to install if you need speed, reliability, and security! 😊

  I kid of course, but I have been down that path and god it’s fun but so awful for convenience. Like I don’t know what on earth I was thinking. 🐧/10; Godspeed Gentoo.

• Now that the installation process and the non free drivers are a non issue, Debian just needs interim releases and it will be hard to justify using anything else.
  Stable is great but it gets too old too quickly for non critical desktop usage, and Testing is a little bit of a gamble especially regarding the security updates.
  Let's call it Debian Mainstream, with new versions every 6-8 months and it's game over for all the forks.

• Well… Halt and Catch Fire

• .. You are realizing that there are more costs than benefits to corporate driven distros, especially over time?.. A bit late to the party? Just to say; The problem lies not specifically with how Linux or a distro works, it is just a general problem with corporatism, and is more a matter of ideologies within the money-grabbing world People have separated the product from business models-

• yes i am disappointed.

• strange – you mention Ubuntu is kind of is not your choice, but at the same time express sympathy to Ubuntu based POP! OS.

• Okay, but isn't this illegal? Isn't GNU GPL specifically designed to prevent this?

• Behind the scenes ReHad is being run by Carmen Sandiego

• F Red Hat

• Interesting that you called it an "IBM-esque" move… you do realize Red Hat is a subsidiary of IBM, right?

• +1 on debian for everything. 30+ years of stability and true OSS mentality. All my new stuff – especially production, is debian 12 at this point too. am not impressed with the stability or long term usability of much of the modern stuff after playing around with all the latest distros, especially arch and it's derivatives. fwiw, linux user for 27+ years, most of that as a slack or lfs guy, but with years of rhel, centos, and ubuntu

• i can not agree more !

• I was a fedora fanboy for years. I am switching over to Debian wsl for my windows 11 pcs and dual booting Mint Debian edition as I prefer cinnamon. Debian is stable and well supported app repos unlike arch based which just tells users to bother the package maker not our problem etc. It’s users are more professional too and less elitist

• The funny thing is I've seen people talk about corporate greed but try to use the VERY SAME tactics used by these corporations in a more appealing manner to them. Think of it as Capitalism Lite.

• Looks like Debian is gonna enjoying eating RHEL's lunch.

• One thing that I remember about Debian prior to Ubuntu was that it seemed to by in a decline, with a lot of people and packages moving to RPM based systems. Debian had a far more complete catalog but if you wanted a newer piece of technology it was very slow going. I think Ubuntu, in the end, reinvigorated the Debian based ecosystem since they pushed it forward in a lot of ways. Ubuntu's existence, is probably benefiting us right now due to the Red Hat drama.

• I was always a Debian guy, I'm glad to see more of a move toward it. Hate that a lot of people used RHEL based distros, I never liked it. Plus I just saw those undercover videos by James O'Keefe about them.

• I must admit, I'm considering a move to Debian myself now. Might see if I can convince my employer to go the same way…

• Evil cackle was absolutely spot on 👌 perfect 10/10

• Rhel is a fucking abomination for corporate. Ubuntu is following the same path. Arch for my laptop and debian for my server. Dont need none of that corposhit

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