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Cosmic Capitals

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One day our civilization may settle our whole galaxy, with mighty star empires consisting of millions if not billions of worlds, but what would the centers of such empires be like?

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Credits:
Cosmic Capitals
Episode 447; May 16, 2024
Written, Produced & Narrated by:
Isaac Arthur

Editors:
Lukas Konecny

Graphics:
Jeremy Jozwik
YD Visual

Music Courtesy of
Epidemic Sound Epidemic Sound http://epidemicsound.com/creator
Stellardrone, “Red Giant”, “Ultra Deep Field”, “Billions and Billions”
Lombus, “Cosmic Soup”, “Hydrogen Sonata”

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46 thoughts on “Cosmic Capitals

  • With AGI you don't need to have as many governmental employees.
    Current day employee statistics don't scale to civilisations of such sizes.

  • A good reminder of how out of control bureaucracy has become.
    We do not need all the endless legions of pencil pushers soaking up our tax dollars, that produce nothing but a rug to sweep waste and corrupt spending under.

  • scale, real scale sounds bonkers, but i guess it sounds also right…

  • Elon is discussing you in a Twitter space on one of his Alts. Brought me here. Cheers!

  • Geramy was just a middle middle manager of the Coffee Stock Department of the Ministry of Letter A Identification, and the anniversary of his tenth year of service was looking little different than the one before. Coffee riots had gotten worse, but not just for A department. Coffee riots were occuring from departments A to G, and no one knew how to record the issue. The Assistant Coffee Sub-Marshal Boris CVI was summoned, but he could do nothing to rectify the crisis. Then the deaths began. People began dropping dead of heart failure and kidney diseases. Borris was sent with an off-the-main-books expedition to the decommissioned Letter "J" ID department, to investigate the arcology records and see if any supply can be claimed after being left behind over three decades ago. But such a journey would lead to self discovery, conspiracy, and one of the darkest secrets of the Coffee Stock Department Ministry of Identification… Read more

  • Seeing content lile this gives me hope that beauracracy over a certain size will destroy itself. Frankly I wish that size were smaller.

  • Ecumenopolis = ECK – you – men – OPP – oh – liss

    "Space is hard; WORDS are HARDER." ^_^

  • An entire society of people who's job it is to replace toilet paper rolls in public restrooms and a giant holy war breaks out over whether it's paper in front or behind the roller.

  • How long would it take for captains 10mile long battle ship to leak all the air out if it was shot through with a 16in battleship shell?
    1atm pressure.

  • I would totally watch any sci-fi movie you write or produce, you have such expansive mind

  • Decades back I played a science fiction ttrpg. Ran with the same group for almost 3 years real time. Coffee was wiped out by a truly evil alien threat, our group were "special force operatives" sent to find the cure and once again make the empire safe.

  • Cosmic capitals: entire worlds of politicians, bureaucrats, and their factotums, hangers-on, sychophants, Laputan flappers, dogwalkers, hairdressers, etc. Someone tell Obi-Wan that we found a more wretched hive.

  • BRO, when you go off into math favts and figures, I lose thought on what the topic of video is.
    All the math figires make me leave.
    By3.

  • Where can I apply for the position of Exalted Coffee Master General?

  • Why was it that Asimov had the population of Trantor at 'only' 40 billion, which is just 5 times our present population? Was he using the old Imperial billion rather than SI (i.e. 10¹²)?

  • I think what this highlights more than anything is the sheer folly of attempting to run a civilization that large with humans doing the work. It will have to be done by AI and we will have to be subservient to it or else the empire doesn’t work.

  • Finally… Finally, after seven years… -I paused the video. I topped off my drink. I put together a snack. I restarted the video. The channel was always great. Now, it’s even better!

  • It's never said that Trantor is the size of Earth, it could be the size of Mars, so making the smaller population size easier to explain. The second question is who is included in that 40 Billion count. You have 25,000 worlds in the Empire so you have 25 Billion tourists at any given time, they don't count towards population but they have who sectors of the planet that is used to house them. So take Dubai which has 300K citizens and a total population of 3.5 million, so only 9% of the population "counts". The Galactic Empire has a Feudal structure, so each of the galactic sectors has domed city to run their admin and have people close to the emperor to lobby. So it's more like 40 Billion official citizens live at Trantor, but 40 Billion are staying there on any given night.

  • While I do sometimes get weirded out at the idea of a hundred billion people in a single system (Issac often assumes even more population that that) I do like the overall idea

  • no one is allowed on the capital planet unless you represent a star system, your job is to do well for your star system, all your food will come in by the drop ship just grab your own ration you will be eating it for your 20 year term or however long your planet has extended the minimum, the rations are safe because we don't have cooks on the planet, if you do managed to get poisoned go to the nearest ship that will take you to the off world hospital, if you can not make it to a ship die on the ground and your alternate will be upgraded to representative and dropped down to replace you. if you tear your tissue clothing you can get new ones from the drop ship but you don't really need it the temperature is such you can live without it, any children you have with the other representatives will be taken off planet as they are not representatives and a security risk, their care is a negotiation between your two systems. sleep on any one of the safety cots on the endless flat concrete, Blankets are a security risk don't bother asking for them no one is that special. this concludes your inauguration welcome to hell.

  • I think Isaac just discovered that numbers are big. Why is a Kardashev civiliation the US with spaceships? Why would a society with Matrioska brains have offices with people doing bureaucratic work? Why would that society look like ours? Everything he said implies governments that would never work because they're so top heavy. All those brilliant mega humans would be killing themselves because they're bored. No one would want to work there and post scarcity says they probably wouldn't have to. But all we got was ten billion this and a hundred trillion that. I love Isaac but sheesh. This one's a rare swing and a miss for Mr Artillery.

  • 28:20 "…a Statue of a Great 25-star General being literally as tall as a Mountain…"

    The Statue: REMEMBER ME!!!

  • Not gonna lie Isaac
    working as one of 10,000 coffee machine repair people in a sub sub sub department reporting to the office of snacks and beverages
    for the ID auditors who cross check licence names against regional linguistic variations
    in a massive office building larger than the combined volume of all buildings on modern earth
    sounds like a kickass setting for an rpg

  • A K2 civillization around the super massive blackhole at the galactic center sounds good

  • On one hand, I’d love to read and/or write a space opera political thriller that depicts all of this… on the other hand…

    I’m… I’m far FAR too sober to imagine all this bureaucracy and rank.

  • Speaking of Azamof, thanks for introducing me to him, I read my daughter the Foundation series as a bedtime story last year, it worked, and… I kept reading every night long after she fell asleep 😄

  • Bonus: This is an Update… L.B.
    Research & Development and Residential & Commercial Properties Will Get Bigger… L.B.
    Future: Maybe We Will Be Looking for Another
    Universe or Multiverse… L.B.
    Salutes from Texas… L.B.

  • I want to see that Sci-Fi series of the great war of the coffee staff between abe-abi and be-bi.

  • I like this Video about Alien Capitals… L.B.
    Update: I start with Basic Services, then Premium
    Services & End with VIP Services… L.B.
    Also, Security has to get Better, a Small and Quick
    Force can Help to Control Riots at City Level, The
    Secret Police has to do Sacrifices to have Credibility
    Among the General Population… L.B.
    Public & Private Transportation Need New Routes or
    New Businesses to Stay Competitive… L.B.
    Hello from Texas… L.B.

  • Issac talks about paperless payment society – Chinese say: we have that today. Issac talks about how many bureaucrats would be needed to audit every person once per lifetime – Chinese say: we use AI to update 14 billion people's social credit scores twice a minute. Seriously, this nonsense about sprawling bureaucracy, or bureaucratic manpower, or paper usage, is already outdated today. US government just hires too many paper pushers and chops down too many trees. Imagine how many ponies you need to feed, house, and clean the poop from, to match the horsepower of your car's 200 hp engine. Unthinkable!

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