Fedora is the new Ubuntu – Fedora Long Term Review
Get 100$ credit for your own Linux and gaming server: https://www.linode.com/linuxexperiment
Get your Linux desktop or laptop here: https://slimbook.es/en/
👏 SUPPORT THE CHANNEL:
Get access to an exclusive weekly podcast, vote on the next topics I cover, and get your name in the credits:
YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5UAwBUum7CPN5buc-_N1Fw/join
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thelinuxexperiment
Or, you can donate whatever you want: https://paypal.me/thelinuxexp?locale.x=fr_FR
You can also protect your privacy by using this extension from Startpage, each install helps the channel with a small commission: https://add.startpage.com/en/protection/?campaign=4&source=aff
🏆 FOLLOW ME ELSEWHERE:
Linux news in Youtube Shorts format: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtZp0mK9IBrpS2-jNzMZmoA
Join us on our Discord server: https://discord.gg/xK7ukavWmQ
Twitter : http://twitter.com/thelinuxEXP
My Gaming on Linux Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaw_Lz7oifDb-PZCAcZ07kw
📷 GEAR I USE:
Sony Alpha A6600 Mirrorless Camera: https://amzn.to/30zKyn7
Sigma 56mm Fixed Prime Lens: https://amzn.to/3aRvK5l
Logitech MX Master 3 Mouse: https://amzn.to/3BVI0Od
Bluetooth Space Grey Mac Keyboard: https://amzn.to/3jcJETZ
Logitech Brio 4K Webcam: https://amzn.to/3jgeTh9
LG Curved Ultrawide Monitor: https://amzn.to/3pcTVDH
Logitech White Speakers: https://amzn.to/3n6wSb0
Xbox Controller: https://amzn.to/3BWmIA3
*Amazon Links are affiliate codes and generate small commissions to support the channel*
00:00 Intro
00:37 Sponsor: 100$ off your own Linux, or gaming server!
01:29 What does THAT mean?
02:03 Fedora Pushes Toward the Future of Linux
04:19 The Excitement Factor
05:22 Fedora keeps stability while being current
08:06 Fedora has the default experience
09:46 Fedora has a big community
10:27 Parting Thoughts
11:42 Sponsor: Get your Linux laptop or desktop with Slimbook
12:07 Support the channel
Just to be clear, when I say that Fedora is the new Ubuntu, I mean that Fedora now occupies the place that Ubuntu used to have in terms of Linux distributions. It’s a GOOD thing.
One of the things I really enjoy about using Fedora, is that they push the Linux desktop towards the future. Some call it bleeding edge, but it’s not. It’s cutting edge: you don’t get the absolute latest, but you get the best that’s also stable.
Fedora was among the first to adopt Wayland, the first to adopt Pipewire, to push Flatpak, portals, the first mainstream distro to push immutable filesystems in Fedora Silverblue.
This drive towards modern tech was what Ubuntu was doing back in the day: they were implementing the latest versions of GNOME, adopted newly developed programs at the time, like Banshee, or F-Spot, they pushed to have better driver integration, and more software available.
Using Fedora, I got that same excitement I used to get when I was using Ubuntu: every 6 months, there’s a new drop of amazing updates. You get more modern technologies, you get improved security, you get new features right as they’re being released, and you get that sense of really taking advantage of all that new stuff the Linux community talks about.
Fedora is a “current” distro, which means that you get the latest release of all the interesting stuff, like the desktop environments, the linux kernel, the graphics drivers, or wayland. And they do this without sacrificing stability.
Fedora, in my experience with it, has been rock solid. In general, I didn’t have many problems with any Linux distro that I daily drove, but all of them tended to exhibit small issues after a while.
My experience with Fedora has been fantastic thanks to this: Flatpak is wonderfully integrated in the GNOME Software app, it’s all a one click install, all updates are handled there, I just never think about my system anymore, I just use it. That peace of mind is something I never truly achieved with any other Linux distro
Another thing I really like is that Fedora has the DEFAULT experience. They ship the desktop as is, without any meaningful extensions, themes, configurations, or tweaks.
It’s just productivity central. GNOME, for me, doesn’t need anything else than the default experience. It is extremely efficient once you wrap your head around how it works, and providing me with a crutch, like an always visible dock, or desktop icons, would just compromise that productivity.
Moving to Fedora also had me learn a few things, especially how to use dnf. I didn’t need to use it, but I wanted to; and since I was a lot more familiar with APT, I had no idea what I was doing.
Turns out, Fedora has a huge community as well, something Ubuntu has had since it began, so it’s another checkmark next to my “Fedora is the next Ubuntu” checklist
ubuntu
Would Fedora work on an intel NUC 13?
Fedora needs to have a long term version instead of just rhel for that. Newest Rhel lost support of my cpu but fedora server works…
I am really new to Linux (coming from MacOs). I started with Linux Mint – which is kinda nice, but I never got the flatpack thing. There is an app that has 250MB and in the flatpack it needs 2GB of space. Why is that?
My fav distros are Fedora and Debian 🙂
Fedora is more stable and more powerful than Ubuntu ever was or could even dream of. New features, no idea. I’m running Fedora 34 with an updated kernel. Everything works and I see no reason to update.
only problem i have with Fedora is almost any app i find, is precompiled in deb package, and you'd have to compile it for rpm if you want it or use something like alien to convert it.
as for wayland i think Fedora was the one fully behind it, i think even the one started the project was working for Fedora at that time
The great thing about Fedora is that the default works, and that was the whole reason why I switched to Linux in the first place, to have a up-to-date default environment for development before I worry about the quirkiness of other people's machines.
Why don't you mention all the bad things about Ubuntu, next to the good ones? The disaster which was Unity, the moving towards Gnome 3, the collaboration with Amazon, just to name a few. I, as so many, also started Linux on Ubuntu (8.04) but as soon as the disasters started I moved away from it and I am very glad I did that.
I now also use Fedora, have tried it several times before, but this time it feels different. Fedora 38 is a fantastic distro and after a week of trying to find the last solutions to some minor issues I now have everything working the way I want. I so hope I can use this distro for many years. I love it. But, what is valid for Ubuntu, is also valid for Fedora: I don't do Gnome, I simply hate it from the first day I saw it. I made the jump to KDE and never looked back. Happily Fedora also has a KDE version which works great.
Thank you Fedora.
And Redhat is the new Canonical 😂
Sounds good. But, how is Fedora with older hardware (2007 iMac)?
Been using fedora since 12-14, now this REHL scares me
Oh I just realized someone, my mum knows about windows 95 and my sibling knows about 7
But it's been a while and my mum mostly uses phones
And my sibling was a baby when they used wins 7 and had both a ipad and a tablet.
They wouldn't be making the switch they would be learning a new, like it's their first computer.
And could run a VM for work since most work and school stuff uses Microsoft products… they hardly have competition there especially with the addition of AI.
I just need it to work, but also am not afraid of customization or learning, using the terminal or even getting rid of features I don't use.
Give me that control baby 😂
Also Wine 🍷
Also I'll dual boot windows anyway in case I fuck up and need to do something on my computer immediately.
Um desktop icons don't matter to me I started hiding them and using keyboard commands a lot more.
I'm just hear cause the websites I looked at assume I'm the average user and would be overwhelmed by customized….
I'm not, but knowing alternatives to linux light and stuff like that for my family would be nice.
I have been using Fedora for 3 years! I love it!
Great video..
I like pop OS. But might try this also thanks!
I have only used Debian based distros so far as a new user but I definitely have plans to use Fedora soon.
Coming from floppy-based Mandriva/Mandrake in the early 2000's, then on to anything .deb based. Mint & MX, especially. I love using apt from the command line. How much will I need to re-learn if going Fedora; the use DNF or something other than apt. I use Linux for aiding neuroplasticity after a plethora of strokes in the cerebellum and basal ganglia. Linux had helped me recover executive functions, yet I balk at having to re-learn much of the basics. Are my fears unfounded, maybe? I am one of the last boomers…
I've used Fedora Linux a few times since version 36 and like that the version of Gnome is a generic version instead of Ubuntu's version which comes pre-packaged with their dock. The only issues that I've ever run into with Fedora are somewhat minor and a consequence of having used Ubuntu for so long and my choice of hardware (2012 MacBook Pro):
– Expecting that the installer would include an option to install third party software which would include the wireless driver for my Broadcom wireless card
– Needing to add RPM Fusion in comparison to checking off a box in the Software & Updates app in Ubuntu
– The performance of dnf in comparison to apt
Aside from the above Fedora Linux does run fairly okay, just the performance felt a little worse than Ubuntu on this particular hardware.
Just tried Fedora, problems from the begining. Far away from Ubuntu.
I used Fedora and only switched because the company I worked for utilized Windows. When I returned to Linux, I chose Manjaro, which unfortunately has been disappointing due to unexpected crashes and the issues mentioned in the video, such as the microphone volume decreasing on its own and an unexplained drop in performance. I'm eagerly waiting for Fedora 38 so I can switch back to Fedora.
Eagerly waiting for Fedora to be the first to push OUT systemd.
Especially since Pottering is no longer a Red Hat employee and moved to Microsoft, of all the companies.
Fine just had installed fedora replacing Ubuntu, you just forgot to mention how crap fedora works on Nvidia cards
Missing gnome2
Personally, I want maximum stability. Even 6 months per release was too often. I use LTS versions.
One reason I've stuck with the Ubuntu family is that the forums are the most helpful of any distro.
Fedora just works. You install it and then you use it. 👍
Because I felt interested by some aspect of it I tried it recently but didn't last much longer than two hours. Too much bad UX nonsense. It just drove me mad. The kind of OS an ultra bureaucratic authoritarian regime or Meta would create. Why making things easy and fast if you can make them overly complicated, counter-intuitive and taking 5 time longer than needed? Thanks but no thanks!
I tried Ubuntu recently and I just gave up. It crashed way too much and seemed just not polished. Then I tried Fedora and I think it's perfect. It's really stable, fast, elegant, smooth. It just seems like a finished product a lot more than Ubuntu
Can my non-Linux friends easily install and run Ubuntu? Yes.
Can my non-Linux friends easily install and run Fedora? No.
I can only agree with you! Personally, I use Arch linux, but recently a friend (pretty much a computer noob) needed help installing any OS for light office work on their new laptop. Arch wasn't an option as it gets updates too often and tends to break without administration, while Ubuntu gets updates too infrequently and I don't want to be bothered having to upgrade to the newest Ubtuntu release every few months. Also, I just can't stand Canonical since they felt like the proprietary Snap store was a good idea.
Fedora really was the ideal choice – up to date, modern and a vanilla (Gnome) experience, the way my Arch desktop is set up. I just installed a few extensions to help them transition from Windows to Gnome, but that was really it. My friend had this laptop in use for some weeks now and never once complained or came with a question to me – it just works, updates and all included 😀
Fedora (even 37) is no Linux Mint. That said…
Wayland and Pipewire both are going to become the system(s) for those ranges of features and functionality. It's simply a matter of time. Cinnamon is not yet Wayland native, and I really don't know how much of Pipewire they've implemented, so clearly at some point they will have to cross both of those thresholds. I have no doubt Clem & Co. will do precisely that.
Over the course of the last few Fedora releases (34, 35, 36, and 37) I have noticed Fedora seems to be much more stable than it used to be. I can easily remember when it would crash or — far more often — programs would simply never open and would give you all kinds of error messages in logs, when at the same time that program would work perfectly in Ubuntu or Linux Mint. The fact that the underlying software has without doubt benefited from all the contributions coming in from a myriad of directions means Fedora is not the distro it used to be. That's wonderful.
Fedora's installer itself is fine, though I would argue I like Linux Mint's setup a whole lot more. On the other hand, LM's installer turns into a useless pile of poo if you're trying to replace a different distro on a system where you don't want to wipe the drive and start from scratch (say, a dual-boot scenario) unless you personally know exactly what to do with the directory structure that effectively you're trying to replace. IIRC, both Fedora's and openSUSE's installers fare better with this.
Fedora's software installer system and system update system (and, generally, all the stuff you use to do basic system management) absolutely SUCK compared to Linux Mint's (and, presumably, Ubuntu's as well).
I have Fedora installed in a VM, and it would have to up its game significantly to stand a chance of replacing Linux Mint.