Is Linux Too Much Like Windows?

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  00:00:00 Intro
  00:01:04 Our Week in FOSS
  00:01:19 Drew's Week in Linux
  00:02:51 Matt's Week in FOSS
  00:11:52 Is Linux Too Much Like Windows?
  00:59:37 Nuggies of the Week
  00:59:59 Drew's Nuggie
  01:02:32 Matt's Nuggie
  01:05:02 Contact Info and Goodbyes

• Vivaldi browser has issues on android. I wouldnt be surprised if the linux binary is just a bit whack

• Windows is more stable than Linux sometimes. Shit happens.

• I USE OPENSUSE

• matt, i've been listening to talk about open suse so much i'm ready to try it. but first, can you use tiling window manager like qtile with it? I am currently on arco linux with qtile and chadwm installed and love it. and can you point me to the iso for whatever version of open suse you use? thank you, i love your channel

• For me this needs to be the other way around. We know that Windows has copied items from KDE and maybe even copied from Gnome but they do not have good ideas so why not copy from Linux which they do.

• More MX Linux propaganda, but I like that their default XFCE is a sleek sidepanel + conky on the desktop.
  With regards to Vivaldi, I think it's just trying to center the non-maximized windows. My maximized Vivaldi windows (one on each monitor) stay where they are, but the one regular window I have open, that always center itself. There's a forum thread about it and it seems to happen on OS X and Windows as well. In Windows I use PersistentWindows that shuffles windows back to their pre-sleep position automatically, but not sure what to do on linux.

• For the store part, probably because I used to have a much slower computer and have less stable network, but when the time I have no idea what command line to install packages, I tried Gnome Software Center, that was a few years ago, but it feels really s__ks, it pushed me to learn apt, dpkg (Because it became unresponsive while I am installing something, and I closed it or restarted my computer caused broken package installation). Those experience actually worse than Windows Store for me somehow.
  Thus, I currently only use command line to install packages on Linux (Debian, Arch, etc…). However, Microsoft Store (Current name) is my go-to place to do some quick install of some cool utilities and tools I need (python, kate, krita, etc…) on Windows. I even purchased gedit on Microsoft Store :P.
  By the way, I use Busybox on Windows as my daily shell now.

• best pick up line – I'm a file manager nerd

• The Slackware philosophy is more “Linux” than most distros

• i use the ms store cause i play minecraft

• There's good and bad influence from Windows that Linux is and was affected by, one of which involving methods to use telemetry and EULA for certain distros and DEs. There's so much of a monopoly involving Windows however that Linux adapting to the OS environment by replicating a decent chunk of Windows in certain ways is 100% justifiable and innovated a lot of things for both Linux and Windows.

  That being said, Linux itself is nowhere near like Windows even if they look similar. Lots of thing involving Linux gets worked around way differently from Windows and most Linux distros even give you the freedom to manipulate the code to the point of breaking and fixing it through just command lines alone. There are many Desktop Environments that work differently from Windows as well and they are very customizable. Windows is a built set that can't remove or replace anything without high risk to the system and Linux is like LEGOs that can be put together with pieces that fit well with the system you're using and can replace them with whatever you want or whatever's available. Just because Windows and Linux can feel and look the same doesn't mean they actually are the same

• No OEM is paying Microsoft $200 dollars for a Microsoft License. $10 to $20 dollars is more in line with what they pay for the license. That is negligible. Now consider the amount of support calls OEM's would get with a new operating system like Linux. Linux of course being a generic term. The issue lies in the fact that there is no standardization in Linux, there hundreds of distributions, numerous DE's. Then the different ways distributions set up and or change the DE's. It is a horror show for OEM's. Then of course the software issues. People start looking on the internet for software, download applications, and start clicking on stuff, getting angry because the software doesn't work. I could go on for hours. It's great we have all the choices we do. OEM's on the other hand don't want all those choices, they want one way to do something.

• I was using LibreOffice years before I moved to Linux. LibreOffice looks exactly the way I want a word processor to look.

• I objected to Windows constantly for a variety of reasons, but as an operating system with a graphical user interface, it is conceptually a good idea for users who need computers as tools, rather than as the focus of their activity. Linux solves so many of the things that make Windows not suitable for requirements.

• 13:00 Matt admits to being a homewrecker

• Being Windows-like seems to be goal of so many distros, I assume to try to be more "user friendly."
  That's why I use Slackware Linux, the oldest and most Unix-like Linux distribution out there.

• Pop!_os literally has an option refresh os. What is even better option it will notify you if there is a newer image so you will getback to like 2 years old version of the system. The other thing is HP printers are known for compatibility with linux. I was pleasantly surprised with not only doing wireless printing but scanning too.

• As someone who primarly uses Windows & mostly everyone I know uses Windows as well, we NEVER use the Windows Store, I actually disabled mine using tools like Destroy Windows 10 Spying & O&O Shutup 10.

  The natural thing to do when getting software is to go to a website & download the exe file & I don't know anyone who differs from this.

  Now the funny thing is I use Linux (ZorinOS) on a few of my computers & I'll just go to the app store to download software there. Like VLC, Deluge, etc. I do prefer the model of getting it directly from the vendor as its more decentralized which is funny to say thats a perk on Windows but its nice thats the norm over there.

  I just want an OS thats essentially Windows 7 in the modern day, thats it, Windows 7 is still the height of desktop computing (I was around for XP too) but Windows 7 was just this refined stable operating system which just worked & wasn't bloated, not much spyware, etc. Most people I talk too feel the same way, we just want Windows 7 again. A PC first unbloated operating system with some nice 2000's new millennium aero design & thats convenient & user friendly to use yet capable.

• Comparing "Windows" against "Desktop Environments" will always be silly. Borderline pointless discussion. You're comparing a component to a Linux desktop to the entirety of the Windows operating system. That's r*t*rded.

• i am a life long windows user and i've never used ms app store. in fact i hate linux stores too, discover i turn off, delete and block. now i either use opi or yast software that both are way more intuitive than zypper. however if i had a choice i'd prefer dnf dragora like store – one screen text based with flexible search and no bs. i guess yast is kind of the same thing, but dnf dragora is more minimal and less convoluted.

  other than that, kde out of the box is literally exact like windows. files are files, settings are settings, everything's the same. btw, in my years of windows usage i;ve had to do command line, so there's that too.

  ps: i can download and burn an iso and go through installation, but tinkering – no, i simply don't need it. i move my panel and start button to the upper right corner, but other than that i just need to do my stuff, be that fun or work, not wrestle with the os, i just don't care about it. you know, not getting in the way of the user is not a figure of speech, that's what the os should be doing.

• I mean. Linux will not win, no matter what. But without being more like Windows, any low percent of chance to win, lowers practically to zero, as "normies" would not want to leave what they know, for something unknown.

• 5:38 why not Forgejo tho? it's what Codeberg is based on

• Linux Mint Cinnamon has become too much like Windows 10 and looks like it is trying to deprecate the terminal to make everything run like Windows if anyone wants a Windows 10 alternative I highly recommend Linux Mint Cinnamon!

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