Linux users are "normies" and fakers

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• I do not gatekeep and don't think gatekeeping is a good thing in the community. Ubuntu is right now my favorite distro because in many cases it works out of the box. I like distros that are working out of the box more than things like Arch or in some cases even Fedora where I have to set up a bunch of things for it to do the things I want.

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• Congratulations! You are making me not to want to hear truth anymore.

• When your entire identity is computer

• I do have to agree with the part that actually installing linux (certain distros at least) nowadays isn't anything special. I had zero prior linux knowledge, though I did already have a thorough understanding of how to flash an ISO onto boot media and to install it. I was able to get linux mint running perfectly on my first try on my old laptop that was unbelievably slow with windows 10 now in order to breathe new life into it. I don't think theres anything special about using linux and I don't understand the elitism around it. I didn't install it to flex or show off or try to establish myself as an expert. I installed it to extend the life of my old laptop. Now I plan to learn all about it though so I can hopefully someday fully switch to it because of privacy concerns with windows. The thing that windows users are normies is stupid. I consider myself a power user on windows, knowing how to use the command line, powershell, regedit, and tweaking system processes to enhance my privacy and performance and no offense but that is probably more advanced than "just using linux".

• TempleOS is for us non-normies. 2024 the year of TempleOS.

• What's funny is that most Linux fanboys wouldn't even be able to install a Linux From Scratch system, let alone get it running. While I use Fedora on my laptop, I don't do anything on my laptop. My main machine is a Windows 11 desktop because it 'just works' out of the box. I've also accepted the fact that unless you live in the woods, you're going to get 'spyware' on your system no matter what in order to communicate with other computers across networks.

  Plus, Linux fanboys are mainly just haters of Microsoft, not lovers of open source software. This shows because most of them don't contribute to the code, most of them haven't seen the code for a kernel let alone for the distro of their choice, and most of them aren't developers in any sense of the word. They don't help the community they're a fan of at all. They're also fanboys of Google, who's imo, worse than Microsoft in terms of 'Spyware'.

  These people are nothing but nerds in a basement that have nothing better to do than spam L33t code all day thinking it makes them a hacker while also spamming 'I use Arch btw' while getting no real work done lol.

• lol very true. I tell my friends that are "technical enough" that they have installed Windows before and know how to install drivers that they already have all they need to start using Linux right now. I'm no more "advanced" than them I just chose a different operating system to install 2 years ago. In fact after having to install Windows for a couple relatives recently I was dying to go back to Linux. Id rather install Mint any day over Windows, especially when you need to go find drivers for a bunch of components after install.

• The vast majority of linux "users" are virtual machines running in datacenters for lots of websites and web applications. Almost everyone is a user in that regard.

• I used to have a favorite camping spot, it was deep down a vary difficult mountain road, the park service fixed up an alternative route that had been closed and now anyone with truck can get back there. Its not my favorite spot anymore. I once went back there and someone was stuck 1 foot off the road, they had no recovery equipment and no experience, A direct result of removing the barrier to entry. Installing Linux used to be a multi-day event it took a huge effort to learn, but then you were capable of fixing almost any issue that came up. I would bet today less then 1/2 of Linux users know how to use the terminal for basic tasks.

• You sound as pretentious as the people you are lecturing lol

• Way to many posers who think ricing their tiling window manager makes them a "elite" linux user. Complete phonys, they probably couldn't even implement a simple stack datastructure in C if their life depended on it.

• fstab is the most fascinating to me since like 20 years ago.
  It seems such an easy way to break your system, yet I have never made a system unusable by editing fstab so far. I still find that weird.

• So if you're more knowledgeable about Linux than 99% of people, you're still a normie, cause according to you, it takes being in the top 0.1% to call yourself competent? I doubt that your definition of normie is still useful.

• Who gives a shit if you are a “normie” or not? Some people just want to use their desktop to watch YouTube and some want to customize every aspect of their OS. Linux people typically have overinflated egos and can’t even create a chron task following simple instructions. I’m a normie I dabble in editing configuration files to make Linux do some weird off color things that takes a kidney to get working in windows. I don’t know the first thing about writing a driver for the kernel or other advance things like that, do I care? Not really I just want to use an OS that isn’t constantly stealing my data and selling it. I work in IT in the consumer space and I spend most of my time learning about Windows because that’s what I mostly service, 5 years ago I couldn’t even explain to you how to edit the BCD store until I sat down and researched how to fix broken windows installs.

• You're right, but your rude presentation will limit the reach of your message dramatically.

• I agree what you say. You’re saying this out of kindness and not out of elitism or arrogance. Following instruction can get anyone to run linux. I thank you for posting this video.

• I am Using Linux for two reasons. 1: There was a time my windows broke, I was for a time forced to use Linux and get used to it, and I got comfortable using it. 2: Windows is working really hard to to make it unappealing. I am not a Linux fanboy at all. I would go back to Windows if it I would see an improvement in my productivity there. But all I've seen over the years was overhauls of the UI that just make the system more confusing and then reverting it. Spyware and AI bullshit I never asked for. Absolutely nothing that appeals to me except from being able to run Windows software.

• Nothing worst than Linux getting flodded by Windbloat migrants.

• But downloading an iso file and create a bootable USB then installing an OS is still way beyond what the average Joe or Jane think of doing that if you do, you're such an expert !

• I use Linux like I use android. If it was difficult, I wouldn't use it.

• dude, I did IT support for Apple users, and what I noticed, was that many use them because they're reluctant computer users, they're not very smart or they're afraid of computers, there's normies and then there's the kind of normies I've seen, it's a whole different level of dumb you're not even aware of. so no, I'd say that linux users are not normies and fakers, not at all, you guys are all suffering from a generosity complex when it comes to the intelligence of the general population and it's very endearing and very kind of you to think that way about others, but it's also very misleading, being able to do this does make you smarter than quite a few people out there, you just don't realise how long that long tail of stupidity on the bell curve, of people, really is, and I don't mean that in a mean way, I mean it as a clinical term, genuinely stupid people. most of "intelligence" is just being willing to put the effort in, for context. most just cannot be bothered, that's why they're "stupid"

  your perceptions are related to the dunning kruger effect, but in this case it's a polar opposite, intelligent people tend to overestimate the general intelligence of the majority of the people in the world around them.

  we're talking people who can't even follow the instructions on the screen during OOBE for mac os. they just cannot comprehend any of it. too hard, too many words. like I'm not kidding or trying to be insulting, this IS the truth.

  linux for the average human being is daunting to say the least, because something to you and me that is as trivial as obtaining a USB thumb drive from the shop just to put the linux installer on, that's already an unusual and new task for many people. normies with cloud storage skipped over "usb storage" entirely, in many cases, and it's even possible for someone to go and buy something like a dud imation thumbdrive with a bad flash chip on it, so then they have to go back and exchange it… we've not even gotten to downloading rufus and we've already hit disaster, this is the kind of stuff I saw as a support in IT, ALL THE TIME!

  and don't get me started on WSL, most people go wall-eyed at the idea of keyboard shortcuts let alone opening powershell…

  most of linux's adoption issues are akin to "last mile deployment" issues with broadband internet, it's all in the practical, on the ground details, nobody thinks about things like asbestos in telecomms pits when they're planning stuff on paper and in legislation…

  the fact is, until people can just buy a machine in every western country, at officewhatever big box store, with linux preinstalled and let's face it, Microsoft would rather become a fascist govt regime themselves than sooner let that happen, linux will be where it's mostly always been, (their acceptance of linux with WSL is about keeping windows installed and giving people a way to not have to ever consider uninstalling windows). it'll get slowly better, and has, but nothing major has really changed since the early 2000s to be perfectly honest, in my part of the world, linux runs home routers, it runs servers in data centers, it runs certain appliances, but it has no significant count of active desktop users. most of the linux users I am aware of, literally do it for the challenge of doing it, and most of them are the vegans of linux users, arch users… I say that because they can't resist telling you they use arch and how great it is…

  and don't go "wha-oh, chromebooks run linux!" they're a glorified "not a java virtual machine" linux distro running running "not java for legal reasons" apps… they run linux about as much as hypervisors that have windows virtual machines running on them, "run linux"

  My technical understanding is decent, I did a few years at uni about programming, it was fairly comprehensive about things like how the hardware worked at a low level and how to program the things, I dropped out and got a job when I saw how the market was going, but throughout my understanding has been quite good, I have built and programmed electronics with microcontrollers and done things like contributed code to projects on github to do with the arduino platform on the esp8266 microcontroller, so yeah, I feel qualified to discuss this issue from both a technical perspective and a social one considering I used to work for Apple as well. not directly, but close enough to the source to get lots of info and work with lots of typical apple users in my part of the world and to be honest, most of them are really not that smart and will even freely admit to that fact themselves. at least most of the people I encountered with issues with their devices, are if nothing else, humble. most of what I do, is just persistence, effort, that's what makes intelligence, that's what linux users have in common, they persist with it despite things being a bit more in depth, that's what makes you all "smart" in the eyes of others, you work at it and you found another way that doesn't involve apple or microsoft.

• Richard Stallman does not understand what he is saying.
  The freedom of software means I can choose what I want.
  So I even have the right to choose proprietary software….. But look how he reacts if I choose proprietary software….

• The Linux community needs some major humbling. Too many basic users thinking they're above average for knowing basic command line operations.

• First of all we are talking about a argument(you know exchange of oposite opinions) which is different then surgery but lets leave that aside for now, While all you say is true, that is still not an argument for what you say to be more correct then someone who used it for less time because if your 30 years experiance gave you more experiance you should be able to craft better arguments.

  Let me put it as simple as i can experiance itself isnt an argument, its the thing you draw uppon to create good arguments.

• Linux became trendy in the 2010's. The quality of interactions and conversation began a slow decline . Community became more toxic as a result. Anything trendy becomes a an opportunity to over compensate in something. Humans become seedy and foul. whatever… lol Linux gave me a career by accident in the late 90s. I owe my life to it. I had no intention of making hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars in tech. I am self taught and was in the right place at the right time. For me it was a gift. All I had to do was read and study. practice. It's been a wild ride and i control my destiny. I work where and when i want. this was the point. I have no diea what the hell 75% of modern day Linux users are doing. Allot of then are unemployed. Not innovating or contributing. The quality of life ends at ricing a desktop and installing arch or starting a YouTube channel. It's basic as F$%^ . I also use mac and windows… I am self employed I have no time to be an open source religious zealot. Being proficient in many technologies means more customers which equals more money.

• So if I don't learn anything by using GNU/Linux as my OS but just use it, why the fck I should use it? Except that I like it and like the way it just work.

• I remember the 90's, man getting started in Linux was SO HARD! Nvidia Xfree86 drivers were insane to install. manually mounting IDE and SCSI drives together on the same system (which I had at the time) were a pain in the ass, I lost the boot loader multiple times for windows and Linux simply trying to mount a disk volume. It was very easy to end up in dependency hell when installing applications. Those were the days!

• You are not wrong.

  I tried Slackware around '95, but it was over my head, and I didn't know where to look for info. In '99 I installed and started learning Red Hat 5, configuring the network card, setting up X, etc. Years later I started using Mint, and because it didn't need much tinkering, I found that I wasn't learning as much, and much of what I had learned no longer applied.

  I'm no expert. I look for the info I need when I need it. I'll be digging in again when Labwc is ready so I can create my own DE with all the appropriate bits & pieces. Just like other OS's, but Linux suits me best.

• Hilarious & Based.
  I've been trying to rid the internet of the Arch Linux mythos one post at a time. The community isn't all elitist jerks who think the Arch Wiki is the single greatest gift on God's green earth.
  Arch is not super difficult to set up, especially if you run 'archinstall'. That basically automates the whole process. Arch "maintenance" is no more difficult than "maintaining" your Windows 10 installation. Meaning, you might clean up some system files at some point if you feel like it…

  If you want an Arch system with almost everything pre-configured by default, then Garuda is a great option. If you download pamac from their software menu, you probably won't even need to open a terminal at all unless you want to.

  Fedora is also a great option. Nobara if you're a gamer.

  Honestly, just pick a desktop environment that looks comfortable. Watch a few videos, and make your decision based on that. Then decide your underlying distro based on software availability and the development team's direction, and what kind of release it is. You can use almost any desktop environment on any distribution.

  Fact is, unless you're actually creating software, most Linux distros are effectively exactly the same as far as you'll ever understand or care to know.

  (Just avoid Debian-based distros and anything running pulseaudio by default. Personal experience. But if it sounds good to you, don't let that deter you. I just want people to avoid all the headaches I encountered by trusting everyone who said "user-friendly distro".)

• I think this is a typical learning curve. When you start learning something you always feel like an expert. Only after some time you realise how much you don't know. For me I started having fun with Linux when I was a little child. I was attracted to Beryl/Compiz effects when I was stuck on XP. I was able to install and configure both Ubuntu and Wine back then and I though to myself "wow, what an achievement". Of course after my "normie" era ended, I went back to using Windows.
  Right now, thanks to Valve and Proton (Yes, I thank you too Wine… and GNU… and everyone else) I became more hooked up in Linux once again. My main challange was to setup my PC as my main gaming station. Unfortunately it was just not possible with Windows. Everything always was sending me back to their GUI. That's why I though to myself – "Hey, what if there was a system that I could change whenever I want and whatever I want" . I don't know much, but everytime I sit to the computer right now I think to myself that I can improve something. Changing some lines of code, writing some scripts for startup, etc.

  I understand that you may be mad, however without 'normies' there would not be more users using anything else than proprietary software written just to make cash of someone. Let 'normies' have fun. If they spread information that they love the system, it would never be a bad thing for Linux. Someone needs a system for entertainment, another one needs for work, and another one needs a system just for procreation. The great part of Linux is that everyone can have their own distro dedicated for whatever they want and if not – maybe they'll be mad and they'll try to make it (or folk other distro). This way everyone can become more knowledgable. Yet, you can't expect people that needs PC for procreation to understand how XOR gate works, just like no one can expect from you to know quantum physics from scratch, even though world operates on it. Let make this community friendly for everyone, not just for 'normies' or 'nerds'

• It takes a certain kind of person to use Linux. I have tried to get other people to use it, the conclusion is always the same. . It's not as simple as copying and pasting commands off the internet, because every Linux, distro and even version will have files in different locations, and different types of executions. If you think you can copy and paste, many of your commands are going to fail to execute, and if you don't notice, you're going to mess your system up. Windows is for normies. Linux is definitely not. I'm a Linux user, I enjoy the challenge and I enjoy the control

• NICE NECKBEARD.

• 💯🎯Finding out sudo zypper dup doesn't make me a software engineer 😭. My education has me asking if you want 🍟with that 🍔

• There is no if-loop.. o) Other than that, I tend to agree.. o)

• A normie buys beer at the store but an enthusiast brews beer at home. Does that make the enthusiast an elitist? Not necessarily.

• I think individuals who consistently criticize, blame, and devalue others (e.g., other YouTubers) are unhappy with themselves. This addiction may result from underlying mental health issues, preventing them from pursuing more productive things.

• You are not wrong sir, I started with Slackware in 1998 and wow, you really had to think on your feet! But I was younger then. Ha ha

• I give a like for admitting right up front

• Can you give this OS/Computer enthusiast some pointers on how to learn more or anything about compiling and kernel?

  I can easily spin up a Linux/bsd machine and drive it around. I don’t know how everything runs under the hood.

  I am learning terminal ((bash ) atm, and some python. I would like to learn C.

• Kent i do respect your rant and i do understand it but I have to say something. Linux users them selfs are not normies they all chose the alternative from windows. But I do see what you mean just wanted to say that. They are more smarter then NPC's they will understand the concept of the terminal emulator out of the box Linux are not as stupid as you think. But still there are levels in skill that is correct but the whole concept of them being told they are stupid is incorrect. I have never been told I am stupid for being a normie on linux. The thing is not what I can I cannot do I am a programmer I do this as a job and a hobby since 97 with suse 6. So your saying linux users are normies right? that's a false definition to start with then you say if they are normies then they can read but did you forget that they all linux users are out of the norm? All linux users are not normies even if they could read or not they got here some how..

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