LIVE STREAM WITH @TheNewEvangelicals June 7th at 8 east/7 central
Join as we hang out and chat with Tim and his wife Sarah from The New Evangelicals!
The New Evangelicals is an inclusive, Jesus-centered community that holds space for those marginalized by the evangelical church through building community, exploring faith and advocating for systemic change.
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Laughing at tempting to explain pork roll on this video… I'm from Pennsylvania, should we try to explain Scrapple?
Re: Apologies/Repentance- from my experience in the church, you're right about the teaching being that you're imperfect and God forgives you if you ask, but the problem is that the church community doesn't, they use it against you. You're punished in some way if you don't at least put on the appearance of behaving exactly like a good group member should. It makes it scary to admit your mistakes when you know that any misstep will be met with shunning and exclusion from your insular social group. That's such a hard mindset to un-learn.
The part a lot of people miss about Girl Defined is that they were IBLP light (didn't join officially because their dad wouldn't shave his beard which was required). Their ATI/IBLP involvement explains so much. In my IBLP church growing up changing your mind was considered a sign of weakness. Good, holy people never change their mind and never apologize according to them. If you're holy enough, the church taught, you don't do anything wrong, so you don't have anything to confess. This thread is a strong through line in many fundamentalists churches I've attended. I'm so incredibly glad I got out.
The Medium at Endor is in the book of 1 Samuel in the Old Testament. King Saul visits her. 1 Samuel is a cool book! "Scandel" ain't got nothing on the Old Testament. Circumcision of heart implies humility, faith, hope, and charity. It is poetry and it implies a change of the heart. I believe that the phrase is used first in the book Hosea (?)
I went to Jerry Falwells maternity home. It's called The Liberty Godparent Home
This whole conversation felt super healing for me 💚💚💚
Catching this a few days late—love it so much. ❤
BTW, "outward sign of an inward change" is straight out of the Roman Catholic Church's Baltimore Catechism as the definition of any sacrament. That just jumped out at me well trained, but never the less bad Catholic.
My two favorite creators collaborating. I'm so giddy! I'm so sad I couldn't be there for the live.
I loved this collab so much 💓 and I agree with everything said about apologies. This was definitely the highlight of my week.
Uuuugh True Love waits!
Thanks for hosting this! It is so refreshing to see two healthy and grounded couples sharing conversation. I also love Sarah and Tim's love, respect, and support of and for each other as a ex-vangelical inter-faith relationship.
How the hell did he not know religion for breakfast???
@1:04:30 yes this is exactly how I feel about P&M and why I empathize so much….
@52:05 …. my god that is such regina george energy 😅 loving this collab btw 💓💓💓 and Sarah cracks me up she's hilarious.
Hey James! I hard recommend the podcast called Apocrypals. It is two comic book writers, one of whom was raised Evangelical, goofing on the Bible. It's great and I love it!
Imo, for the question about the content creator who has said she wont apologize, that might be just a step on the path and she may come around in time. Changing your beliefs so publicly when you've literally built a career on them is a tricky thing to navigate. Many of the beliefs are really harmful but I'd lean toward giving her some grace in the short term and hoping she ends up in a better place.
Love this!!
Man I love this team up and I would LOVE to see this be a regular thing—maybe quarterly or twice a year or something. I would have needed this so much when I was deconstructing
Oh Whut?! Daaaaannnnggggg! I’m so proud of y’all fundie Fridays! You’re literally changing the world for the better in your own cool way! “Bless” you!
James I would love to know more about being raised around politics and Ronald Reagan instead of the Bible and Jesus! That would be such an interesting video. Love y'alls channel and love this collab!
James!! Read Judges, what a wild ride. You'll be waking Jen up to tell her crazy stories. Then you'll have a whole rant about Deborah