New to Linux? Yeah, DON'T Use Manjaro…
If you’re new to Linux, there’s a good chance you’ve been recommended Manjaro Linux. After all, you get all of the benefits of a rolling-release distro without all of the instability of Arch Linux! Sounds great, right? Unfortunately, after using Manjaro myself in the past I just can’t recommend it to anyone, especially newbies to Linux. In this video, let me explain why I no longer trust Manjaro with anything…
Why you (probably) shouldn’t use archinstall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_RWNKlxF3c
Don’t make this mistake when using the AUR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anCaH8nzoeI
What you should know before using the AUR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goOrF8zAkqU
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Sources:
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/aur-please-restrain-yourself/103318
https://web.archive.org/web/20150409095421/https://manjaro.github.io/expired_SSL_certificate/
https://web.archive.org/web/20171203081155/http://manjaro.github.io:80/SSL-Certificate-Expired/
Note: @ManjaroLinux are shipping an unstable kernel build newer than what we ship to end users, which is broken on some platforms.
We have not been contacted by them regarding this Apple Silicon release. https://t.co/nTCXZnQIA2
— Asahi Linux (@AsahiLinux@treehouse.systems) (@AsahiLinux) October 1, 2022
I very much like manjaro to not ship postmarketOS tweaks git master and then send issues that it isn't working
— Martijn Braam (@braam_martijn) June 5, 2022
0:00 Why use Manjaro?
2:39 The packaging problem
6:25 My experience
9:06 Manjaro’s many mistakes
13:49 So what should you use instead of Manjaro?
by Eric Murphy
linux web server
Been using Manjaro for years, it's great, I've heard there have been a couple of instances where "mistakes were made", I was not impacted by these. My experience is it's stable and hasn't been breaking much, fixable stuff. I used arch for a bit, and arcolinux, I'm not an expert by any means, I think anyone can make Manjaro work, just don't be dumb, a little common sense is all that's needed. I hate the package manager on debian/Ubuntu, so I'm stuck on the arch side, and Manjaro has just been working, it provides some powerful utilities that arch does not.
Eric: I find it funny that as a really old Microsoft OS user, I am supposed to happily install whatever. What I actually did was dig out an old quad-core PC and do hardware installs of "recommended by YouTube" distributions. And test printers as well. I was shocked by how many distributions did not survive the reboot and the challenge of an old Nvidia card. As you might guess I eventually found a stable and dependable distribution, and we've happily run GNU Linux for the last few years. There's little chance that we'll scrap Mint / Cinnamon on our daily drivers, for both desktops and laptops. The test-bed system is a rabbit-hole that lets me try out new-to-me distributions. All good for a retired Technical Writer.
the main drawback from arch for me so far is how the community at least where i was looking guidance think they are so sassy with their comments even if the question you ask is really specific and you are just looking for clarification. 90% of what you need is in the arch linux wiki but that doesn't mean that you can't just clarify or reassure people. Arch is my first attempt to move away from windows but so far the wiki and chat gpt has been more helpful than the community.
If you wanna pick up arch I do recommend you don't use archinstall it's actually really simple but people are not really welcoming for anything but powerusers.
I have Manjaro on a machine, and it works great. It's actually quite stable. I've got Garuda on another machine as well, and I like it too. Those are two arch-based distros that I would recommend to anyone, even a new user.
If you're new to linux the best way to learn is install it, don't put all your important stuff on it, have fun and break it, best moment I had with Manjaro was me getting frustrated with the permissions system in place and just said "screw it i'll change every file to be read writable" whole thing blew up, I was laughing my ass off and tried again
I use ArcoLinux rather then Manjaro or even Arch.
Fedora & POP_OS! rather then Ubuntu. I don't think I have used Ubuntu as a daily driver since Ubuntu 7 or something.
The bit around 4:00 is why I'm glad I watched this. If I were to switch to Manjaro and then have instability caused by the lack of synchronization between the repos and the AUR dependencies, then I'd be right back where I was with Ubuntu and the PPAs. Thanks for saving me the hassle.
Last 10 years Mandrake slackware mandriva debian pardus ubuntu Manjaro. still with manjaro. Try any linux distro and you will get experience then any distro hopping will be meaningless.
Thanks Eric, nice channel!
Haven't watched the vid all the way yet but I can tell you 4-5 years ago Manjaro sucked ass. These days it's really good. And yes, Manjaro is a HELL of a lot more stable than arch. It's one of my top 4 distros. Not for beginners but still one of the best you can get. By a lot.
Manjaro KDE is one of the 3 best distros I've used since 2005.
I am currently in Manjaro. I started with it and hopped all over the Linux desktop world (even Arch btw) and I love Manjaro. Most of the issues in this video are related to the AUR, and you can simply switch to the unstable branch of the OS then those issues don't exist anymore you will get updates exactly on time with Arch. The other stuff I cannot excuse.
I first went to Manjaro… It was a mess. Id recommend Fedora.
I dont know… maybe Manjaro is not the best Linux Distro for new users, but it is defineliey the best ARCH Distro for new Users. Manjaro is as stable as Arch, but has a lot of benefits. (Great System Tools, easy. fast Installer, superior HW recognition, own Repo) and a lot more. There are a lot of different types of "new linux users". And Manjaro fits a lot of them well. especially techy people, gamers and heavy users. This is why so many People use it and why you find it on the top area of every ranking. I had problems with it too. So i gave Fedora, Edeavour and plain Arch a try, All of them had issues too. So i am back.
A good UI design doesn't equal a good system. I wanted to like Manjaro so hard and the AUR repo is rather impressive… however it's a piece of junk under the hood and a usability nightmare!
The experience you mentioned having with Manjaro causing you to go back to Windows was the same experience I had with Ubuntu back in 2009. 😂
I switched from Arch to openSUSE Tumbleweed recently and while I do miss AUR it was all around a much more stable experience for me. I use my main PC primarily for gaming so this worked out pretty good and Flatpak handles most my AUR needs anyways so I'm happy. I may switch back to Arch one day, but I'm happy here. When I tried Manjaro it iust had a tendancy to break in ways Arch wouldn't, it was weird. So, for me, if I want Arch easy I'll reccomend Endeavour and if I want Arch I'll just use Arch, but I'm happy on Tumbleweed so I've little reason to leave.
i am using it for a year now. all running well. never had any issues.
Young people value stupid shit. You can't help it. You don't even know that you're trying so hard. You don't accept that you don't need the latest version of everything but more than that, you've turned "mastering Linux" into some kind of mission and you can only progress if you continually move into a more technical distro. I know because I did that shit, too. Distro-hopping is a thing, and you'll keep doing it, and for a while, you'll keep telling people each time how you've beaten the next boss and the next and the next. Eventually, if you continue to grow your self-awareness and self-honesty, you'll see it clearly. It's no big sin or anything and enjoy. But it really is just an abstracted form of competition.
Fuck you and fuck arch users. 'Babies first Linux distribution' – and then you have the audacity to make a video on why the arch community is so toxic – this is why – your part of the problem.
I had pretty much the same experience with manjaro. Got sick of Шindows, tried to install arch, failed to install arch, then tried a first popular arch-based distro I found online — manjaro. And overall, it wasn't that bad, but there were some problems with some outdated packages, mainly discord desktop app. In the end I just got tired of it, and switched to endeavour.