The New Ubuntu Linux "Flavor" We All Expected

50 thoughts on “The New Ubuntu Linux "Flavor" We All Expected”

• I'm aware the purpose of the distro is to protest the Flatpak removal change, I address this in the first minute of the video, however, when someone sees a distro they're likely not going to look into it's history and instead want to judge it on it's own merit.

• Should be an install script.

• This is exactly the, sorry, idiotic, kind of iso we do not need. At all. Not that I'm against the idea, I deinstalled snap completely myself, but creating an iso for that is just crazy.

• Snaps are not technically bad, snaps are only bad because the repo is proprietary.

• Protestware! 🎉

• This linux community is so toxic, because when Linux mint banned snap, no one said it was against everyone privacy or etc,

  Anyway lets wait for the linux mint snap edition with flatpak being banned this time lol

• I don't mind this distro, but yes, that "Download" link is a bit confusing.

• I think a lot of Windows migrants use Ubuntu and they don't mind snap or flatpack, they just want to use the Ubuntu as it has a lot of coverage on youtube and other forums. I feel it's good to have options but linux is suffering from fragmentation issue. I think we need a lot of GNU like projects which address all open options under one umbrella type solution. I guess the way linux is fragmented now we can't expect much on that part.

• Protest movement

• Community of insanely people

• Itd be kinda funny if this actually lead to an entire new spin off of Ubuntu beyond just adding Flatpak.

• I personally prefer post-installation scripts.

• Huh, i like that faq

• Here is the real question. Is this distro going to be long term? Is this going to be a viable operating system 5 years down the road? It seems to me like a knee jerk political reaction then an actual project people should get behind. Once the news that Ubuntu is backing their own product over another gets stale, I pretty sure people are going to go back to not caring and this will be short lived. Why should I put in the effort of making my computer run this? Honestly a distro like this could do a lot more harm than good long term because I'm not convinced the team backing it is serious.

• The Only Ubuntu Flavor tha Works is Linux Mint

• This all seems to me, once again, much ado about nothing. People just like to rip into Canonical for whatever they are doing. There was nothing stopping a user from installing flatpak on Ubuntu. That is not the change. The announcement was that it's not enabled by default (Which I'm pretty sure it never was, unless that is a mandala effect thing on my part?). Snap was always the going to be their default modern package manager. It's their product, they run the support on it, why shouldn't it? Flatpak is still on the repos if someone wants it. I'm pretty certain most of the people complaining are people who aren't using Ubuntu anyway.

  I for one use Ubuntu for their server product. Flatpak is useless to me in that space so what do I care? Snap can be though, I like most people, use docker containers. I'm always laughing about all the hullabaloo over various linux desktop distros which are such a minority of a minority. It's linux server that is the real action and these companies know it (except for flatpak which totally dropped the ball there). I do get it. People like to argue about things that that they feel matter to them. It's fun. But let's not lose perspective…

• Ubuntu AppImage Remix, pls! _o/

• It's painful to watch how Canonical forces Snaps on desktop users.
  Don't get me wrong, I can't code nor do I like messing around on the command line as I see a computer as machine that I need to get stuff done – be it productive things or entertainment – thus I couldn't care less about Snap being proprietary or not.
  But let's be real, if flavors want to ship Flatpak support let them do their thing.
  Especially given how Snap Firefox still struggles.

• I recently saw a clip where mark shuttleworth referred to Flatpaks as being insecure. Is there any truth to that statement?

• I rlly wanna leave windows… but videos like this make me rlly happy that I am on windows.. I just watch 10 min video and I have 0 idea what you was talking about 😀 But you have my like <3

• Well I think if you do not like snaps, just go with debian, and install flatpak. no snap bloat. Q4OS has a close to Kubuntu experience.

• I dig the name Flabuntu 🙂 But yeah, I don't think it is a necessary distro, unless ubuntu will make very hard to use flatpaks.

• Back in the Gnome2 days, we had Ubuntu Catalan Remix. It used the official repositories, and simply included better Catalan support than you would get otherwise by changing the list of default packages. It made sense back when language support was so spotty. It would still make sense for CJK though.

• Taking away choices for Linux Users is always a futile attempt

• THOSE HANDS!!! …………………..tie them down!

• Ubuntu will evenutally sell it all to microsoft; thats their only option. Ubuntu's business model is parallel to MS. Ubuntu is the goto for linux VMs for corporate types. So yeah I predict microsoft. This is just one step closer to locking it down.

• looks like canonical opened an pandora box

• I think making a new distro is a good idea, because it will help people discover and use flatpak (which is better than snap at least because you don't have to rely on flathub). Imagine a situation like this: a beginner comes by and asks for a Linux distro, and we tell them to use UFR and they need no setup to use flatpak or even know what a package manager is. That's a huge W

• Why does Canonical always have to choose some 'other' option when deciding between competing standards.

  When the debate was Systemd vs OpenRC they went with Upstartd only to ditch it when their attempt to force it into Debian failed.

  When Wayland was starting to look at replacing Xorg seriously they roll their own in the for of Mir only to drop it (and killed Unity too).

  When people where debating git vs hg, they go with bzr.

  They waste a hole lot of effort in duplicating something that already exists (often in python) only to dump it and switch eventually when it gets no traction and competing project see all the opensource development because that it what everyone else is using.

  Ubuntu One, also dead. At least I could see the business case for that since they could ship it with Ubuntu and make money on hosting but it still died, regular users just stuck with dropbox and corporations would use their own servers. Unity was a bit of a different case as there was actually a need for it since Gnome3 sucked at the time, and it was originally spun out from Ubuntu netbook remix back when netbooks looked like they might become a thing and the only UIs made for them where proprietarily like the one Asus shipped with the EeePC. Not really sure where launchpad fits in, I can see they would benefit from hosting their own source repositories, gitlab didn't exist then and I don't remember how popular Github was back then.

  But what's the business case for spending development resources on making snap rather than adopting flatpack?

• Thank you for saying snaps are bad just so you can see upset people in the comments

• Personally I would just use mint/pop/fedora even silverblue with the ublue images

  My take on the script use at own risk though like mentioned kinda unnecessary

  #!/bin/bash

  # Update package lists
  sudo apt update

  # Remove installed snaps
  for snap in $(snap list | awk '!/Name/{print $1}')
  do
  echo "Removing $snap…"
  sudo snap remove "$snap"
  done

  # Disable snapd
  echo "Disabling snapd service…"
  sudo systemctl disable –now snapd.service
  sudo systemctl disable –now snapd.socket
  sudo systemctl mask snapd.service
  sudo systemctl mask snapd.socket

  # Remove snapd and its dependencies
  echo "Removing snapd and its dependencies…"
  sudo apt purge -y snapd

  # Install Flatpak
  echo "Installing Flatpak…"
  sudo apt install -y flatpak

  # Add Flathub repository
  echo "Adding Flathub repository…"
  flatpak remote-add –if-not-exists flathub https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

  # Update Flatpak packages
  echo "Updating Flatpak packages…"
  flatpak update

  echo "Done. Snaps have been removed, snapd disabled, and Flatpak installed."

• Snaps are bad, yeah.. used to be laggy for sure.

• "Don't like it, don't use it…" – UltramegagigaChad Computer Enthusiast

• Ive been a desktop linux user for 24 years now. 10 years with Red Hat/Fedora and 14 with Ubuntu (and flavors). I don't like and don't use flatpaks and snaps and I'm getting along just fine without them. These debates over package managers are laughable.

• can't believe the ~46k subbed linux youtuber brodie robertson frequently changes his outro.

• Instead of calling it UFR", why not "FRUbuntu"? It rolls off the tongue more easily

• More like Ewwbuntu! Hate that distro.

• Single dev distros are always something to stay away off IMO. In this case though, I would say it is pretty clear this distro is more of a statement than something meant to be actually used. But just wanted this general good advice out there as a reminder.

• Missed opportunity to call it Flubuntu

• Why it is not called Flubuntu??? They are losing me.

• Does it need to exist? No. Would I use it? Probably not I can literally write a bash script to do all this in the time it takes to install Ubuntu. But why not?

• This was created by one of your fellow YouTubers

• I can see a reason why the download button is changed: how many actually legitimate big green download buttons are there versus the ones that just give you a funny virus?

• Script version could also be nice when someone want to use ubuntu flavour instead of regular ubuntu and remove snaps in this flavour. So I think that script would be better in some ways.

• I'm launching my Ubuntu flavor with flatpak built in- Flubuntu

• It's more about sending a message. Canonical was trying to silence their competitors, so the community fought back!

• Ubuntu trying to FORCE people to use their walled garden snap store instead of the open flatpak ecosystem is reason enough to flush ubuntu if you needed yet another reason to do that.

• I think a script would certainly be easier to maintain and could work for other flavors, too. Plus not having to reinstall your OS just for a few tweaks. A whole new iso seems way too excessive.

• …literally just use Pop!_OS

• That would only create more division for Linux and Foss…

  Such a thing would only benefit Microsoft…

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