This Other Ubuntu Linux ISO Is Going Away
Did you know that Ubuntu Linux offered source ISO images, well that may not be the case for much longer as these are very likely going away soon
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the ubuntu source isos would require roughly 11600 floppy disks
🌈the more you know
man those arms are getting LONGER!
Why don't they have a publicly available git repository from where people can download the source code? That would be the logical thing to do, in this case.
To begin with, it is necessary to provide the sources it a bulk distribution *of some kind*. And as you pointed out, Canonical really hasn't been doing that at least since snap was implemented. Personally i think it should be a source repo with maintenance so that building and verification is something that can reasonably be done. This would also help with the many legal/security compliance requirements that there can be for such processes *and ensure Canonical knows what is in their own system*, they often don't seem to.
Be careful talking about getting rid of it as is though, we don't want this to get any closer to the way Android is dumped, or how Chinese companies leave a dusty tgz of tangled code in a pretence of gpl compliance.
for some reason, microsoft distributed a windows 8 installation medium on floppies. 1713 floppies to be more precise. installing ubuntu from 6 dvds doesn't sound too horrible really…
oooo BOON TOOO eh
Any way useless most of their code is not GPL compilant and if it is is usually pushed to the basic debian
They should update their processes and host a single Blu-Ray source ISO instead.
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Back when my friends were using Ubuntu I was hoarding the source ISOs just because I figured it'd be helpful if they partially borked their install or got stranded without internet as despite cable internet being available and cheap, they all had really flakey DSL. I never ended up using them by the time the Unity incident happened, and my friends abandoned Ubuntu for newer PCs with Windows.
Open Source is good to breaking itself by fragmentation of compliance with own licences that made them so good..
* as a note for "Arch master race": ubuntu at start was installed from sources and you needed to compile it from source distributed ISO – that solved the ubuntu sources problem nicely, if you could install it 🙂
I think it would be more prudent to write up a tool to scrape the sources from packages and build the images yourself if needed
I never installed Linux from floppy discs, maybe I should try just so I can leave a comment about how many it took.
one of the things that confuse me about ubuntu their over 4 Gb binary iso size. For what reason ubuntu binary iso become over 4 Gb comparing to fedora and debian for example which I can write them on 4 Gb media?.
I agree, moving to git is the way to go. Makes things way easier from my standpoint, and includes version archives. CentOS does this, and I have used it to go back and build old packages myself.
I wish Ubuntu had these as jigdo files. I tended to keep copies around to rebuild my local mirror from if I lost it.
With jigdo the main data the source debs are pulled from the primary mirror. Jigdo only needs a template file and that mirror to make a working iso. The templates aren’t that large either.
Ubuntu get a better file management scheme…
Ubuntu is very popular in Ai development, which is huge money. But i use PikaOS clone of it which is faster than original source.
Your can download the source deb field. Why on search do you want isos imagess with the source debs on them?
When i was like 15 canonical sent me a free physical cd with ubuntu (full os, can’t exactly remember what version). You could just ask for a cd on the website. That’s what they did to promote the system at the time, though i was impressed they did send it worldwide free of charge. I still have it somewhere.
Video: Brodie talks about OOBUNTOO
Outro: Brodie deletes OOBUNTOO
I wish I had never clicked. This is a non-issue that I didn't need to know about.
This is how Debian hides their ISO files. 😂 It works for them. 😉
No doubt it's been said by someone else, but I'll reiterate it. There's one use case I can think of for the source ISOs – building offline. For those who want to rebuild their system from a "known point" but who know they'll be offline for a while when they do it, grab these images before that point, then you're going to have fewer issues than if you wanted to reach for individual source tarballs as you go (which would require online access). Yes, you have the obvious disadvantage of missing patches since the ISO build, but there's not much you can do about that fact if you're offline.
I see one use and only 1 use and that is lack of internet access and the need to modify code. Such a use is rare. Most of us aren't on mars or in some deep jungle. That and even if that were the case most likely the binaries are good enough. I suppose mars you might need modify source for unforseen issues, but meh. Access to source on cd's might have been great thing in dialup days or fringe areas, still binaries are usally good enough.I have in dark ages when I was at University bring binary packages home to update by dumping the /var/cache/apt/archives on to a DAT tape to bring home because I had only 28k modem at the time. Physical media is great for crappy internet. Now that I have fiber the need for phyiscal media is mute. Far away servers feel next door. We aren't getting cut off from the source code, we are just not given a ready made offline capable image. Short of me moving to mars or another solar system I see no reason to have a need for source isos.
I always thought backports and Ubuntu were the same thing.
The gpl license can be confusing at times. Here is an example. If I were to use the debian live build to make a spinoff of debian (no source code change) then would I have to distribute source code that is basically the same thing as debian. The only difference would be configurations and added images for wallpapers and stuff. I am no lawyer and it always bothered me.
Would be interesting to see if someone ever downloaded those cd images in last few years