Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 7.4 – Take Me Out To The Holosuite

31 thoughts on “Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 7.4 – Take Me Out To The Holosuite”

• I truly enjoyed this episode i really did.
  I'm lookin forward to the next one

• 32:17 (also the name of a baseball player)

• WAAAAA???? Jake is realated to Kenny Lofton?!?!?!?
  🤯

• I feel you there Sean. I like Whiskey, but not Scotch.

• You touch home (plate), its a field, you score runs. 😂
  Thanks for the video Sean, we'll work on your baseball later 🙂

• 22:44 Off the pitch? You throw a pitch. They play on a field.

• 14:44 People have been fighting the removable of human umpires for YEARS. This isn't hologram abuse, it's about maintaining the human element of the game.

• Just because Major Kira is a badass doesn't mean she must be good at baseball.
  A person being good (or great) at one or several athletic thing(s) doesn't mean that they will be good (or great) at them all.
  Hell sometimes people have tremendous gaps in certain dimensions of that activity.
  Look a Shaq for example. One of the greatest basketball players of all time, but can't hit a shot from more than 6 feet away from the rim to save his life.

• As both an American and a fan of baseball, I have to say, no notes, well done.

• Regarding a holographic umpire. It is mentioned a few times on Voyager that creating a hologram as sophisticated as The Doctor is not an easy task, and requires years of research. If Sisco did use a holographic umpire, it would be nowhere near The Doctor's level, nor would it be at Vic Fontaine's level (and in his case, it's never mentioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if Felix pirated some EMH code in his programming of Vic). It'd be a very primitive computer program, relatively.

  But ultimately his point, really, is that he doesn't want a machine measuring the position of every limb of every player down to the nanometre, all to maintain the rules. The fuzziness of an organic brain doing the refereeing is preferable to him. As much of a stickler for the rules Odo is, he can still make mistakes, and that is, in Sisco's mind, part of the spirit of the game. The ability to argue with the umpire.

• I love the O’Brien shoulder. When he walked in holding the shoulder I had to laugh, because I loved the callback. So good.

• Another 6-degrees of separation between Fame and Star Trek – Colm Meaney was in The Commitments which was directed by Alan Parker who also directed the movie Fame that the series was based on 🖖

• Great Rom impersonation

• I think there's a bit of extra context added to Solok's blatant dickishness when you remember that after the wrestling match with Sisko, he then wrote a paper on how Vulcans were always inherently superior to humans and used Sisko and the wrestling match as PROOF. So yeah. Screw Solok.

• Something occurred to me during a re-watch: The Logicans only fielded 9 players, since being Vulcans they would only use the minimum amount of players. However, during the ending, Solok intentionally turns Odo, causing Odo to toss him out of the game. While the players give up the game at that point, this means that the Logicans only have 8 players, not enough to meet the minimum players. Odo should have then called a forfeit on their part, since the Niners could have had their next at-bat and the Logicans are missing a player. Ergo, the Niners won the game!!

• You have to wonder what Solok's crew thought of all this.

• I get the logic of thinking a genetically engineered player or Klingon would be good at baseball but even the best baseball players fail at hitting the ⚾️ 65% of the time. There is a prevailing sentiment that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports.

• Go for it ! keep going like that !

• I love the effort of taking on the vocabulary of taking on a sport from another country. The subtle differences of saying things like “scoring a home run” (local vernacular is hitting a home run) or “points” (we use runs) or referring to the field as the “pitch” just highlights that you all went though some real effort to put this together. I grew up and still play baseball and the minor differences in jargon makes me appreciate these videos even more because it means that while you didn’t grow up around the culture of something like baseball, you really do dive in (baseball pun intended) try to get as many details as possible. I’ve never heard of Dick Allen, but he seems like a stud – thank you for that!
  Fun fact – they filmed at Loyola Marymount University’s field.

• Take me out to the holosuite
  Take me out with the crowd
  Buy me some jumjat and cracker jacks
  I don't care if the Vorta come back!
  Let me root, root, root for the Niners
  If they don't win it's Shaka when the walls fell
  For it's one, two, three strikes you're out
  At the old ball game!

• Baseball for Michael Piller is a metaphor for Leonard Nimoy & Spock (I Am Not Spock & I Am Spock)

• I like this episode quite a bit. It's funny, it's sweet, it thumbs it's nose at the standard "lovable losers" storyline (Like Silver Linings Playbook in that regard). Just a great episode. I haven't watched the video yet, but I don't anticipate many downs.

• Well, I'm happy that you're doing Ups And Downs for the older series especially DS9. However, I don't like baseball and I don't like this episode. This is not the worst episode of DS9, but it is among the most boring. And in the middle of an exciting war to boot.

• Good episode, Sean, but … American baseball isn't played on a 'pitch'; it's a ballfield, Sean. 🖖

• You snapped your fingers and BAM, Ryan Reynolds appears in a commercial. Good timing.

• Do "Code of Honor" 😀

• I think if Brooks couldn't get 15 as his jersey number, another appropriate number for him could be 23. Don Mattingly for the Yankees was 23. Mattingly was from Evansville, Indiana which is where Brooks was born and lived till he was 8. Evansville Indiana is also where I have lived since I was an infant in late 1979. Been in the area since. I live about <5 miles outside of the city in the next town over to the east.

• Teenage me loved this episode when it originally aired. I really didn't enjoy it on my most recent rewatch.

• Loved this!! Thank you! ❤

• Stop mislabeling. This should be a law against throwing around the racist. How many different worlds are together working with each other. Not being a mule to others. But when someone is a jerk your allowed to be like they are. You don’t act this way is when someone isn’t doing the being a jerk. So chill with the racist comments. Or will stop watching your show…..

• It's not a pitch, it is a field or ball field. Points are actually called runs.

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